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ICOCinvestigation.com
has heard multiple accounts of members being told that it was
“illegal” for them to be given salary information for church leaders.
Such a claim, however, is completely inaccurate. We are calling for
individuals who were told such to document these events in a sworn
statement. We believe that this happened on enough occasions to make
it obvious that it was an established method of keeping curious members
out of the books. Anyone who experienced this, or who knows anyone
who did, should contact us.
Miscellaneous
Salary Information
Salary
Calculator (2001)
Apology Letters (2003)
Los Angeles International
Church of Christ Salary Documents (2005)
Miscellaneous Salary
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ICOCinvestigation.com
has received information from numerous former members and former
church administrators as to how minister's salaries where handled.
Did you know that when a
minister needed a new computer the cost of the computer was factored
into his salary? Did you know that there was a procedure in place
that
allowed ministers to receive refunds back from the IRS so they could
off-set their special missions contributions? |
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From: as myself (barrymahfood)
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9/29/2007 2:04 pm |
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HI all, just a couple of days
ago I was reminded of one of the ways that the
ICC "needs-based" salary model benefited those
of us on staff in an unusual way. At my new job
(Financial Aid adviser at Full Sail in Orlando)
I was calculating a student's net financial aid.
I then had to add in the lender fees to get the
gross amount. That reminded me of the term we
used to use in the admin office of the church:
"grossing up."
Whenever we dealt with a
minister's salary, we would treat the calculated
salary as net, then add in the applicable taxes
to arrive at the total salary. The practice was
to add in enough so that the minister would get
back approximately 3% of their salary in IRS
refunds. The justification for this was that we
needed to help them come up with their special
contribution each year. Obviously, most real
jobs give you a salary that represents gross.
Once the IRS gets its share, you live off the
remainder. Not in the ICC.
Incidentally, this practice of
grossing up also applied to any other benefits
that were counted as salary. For example, if the
church bought a new computer for the lead
evangelist, its cost was included as salary, and
it was grossed up so the minister wouldn't have
to bear any tax consequences resulting from the
gift. Cool, huh? |
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Did you know that
DPI authors while not holding their own copyrights for books written for
the church could
count the proceeds from the sale of their books towards their own
personal special mission contribution? |
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From: as myself (barrymahfood)
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9/30/2007 6:37 pm |
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>>Could I link directly to this
post on the ICOCinvestigation website?<<
Absolutely.
>>Have you ever heard of
ministers at any level getting the bonus of not
having to pay their own SMC if their
congregation/sector made their SMC goals?<<
No, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I did hear that those who wrote books, while
they could not own the copyrights or get paid
directly from their sale, could count the
proceeds that went to the church as their
special contribution. |
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Salary Calculator
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ICOCinvestigation.com
received an excel spreadsheet
salary calculator used
by some church administrators in 2001 to calculate salaries for local
staff. Does anybody know what #11 (Special Adjustment) was
used for? |
Apology Letters
Los Angeles International Church of Christ
Salary Documents
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LAICC Ministry Employment
Positions |
This document that gives descriptions of the LAICC Ministry
positions in Jan 2005 (with a code for different categories) and
gives a salary range for each one. Here are some specific
things to take into account from this sheet:
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The salary figures
are based on someone being full-time and having no
geographic cost of living adjustment
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These salary
figures INCLUDED parsonage (for example, if this
sheet says salary is 75,000, then $30,000 might be
designated as "parsonage" which would leave $45,000
as "salary") In other words, they did not receive a
parsonage on top of the amount on this sheet.
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These figures DID
NOT INCLUDE any benefits (health, dental,
retirement, etc.)
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These figures DID
NOT INCLUDE any personal business reimbursements.
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LAICC
Hay Model Salary Calculator |
This excel document
was originally used at the end of 2003 to calculate salaries
based on the new Hay Model. It has been updated with the
2005 Salary figures from the
document
above. (Except the admin salaries are still the 2003
figures because we haven't received an update on their
figures in 2005). One of the worksheets lists the minimum
and maximum salary amounts based on the definitions from the
document above. The second worksheet is a sample region
put together just to show what items were factored in to
determine where someone's salary actually fell in the
range. Here are things to take into account on this sheet:
- Once a woman
staff person had a child, they were determined to be
"part time" and their salary would be adjusted down
to 65% of what the salary range dictated. This
65% pay factor is used in the sample region.
- There was also
a geographic cost of living adjustment that would be
made based on which part of the LA Church you
lived. The .pdf assumes no geographic cost of
living adjustment, (so the multiplier would be
1.0). Our source states that when he lived there,
no region of the LA Church would have been 1.0. To
his knowledge, the lowest region was 1.10. He also
speculates that some of the more expensive areas
(such as O.C) would have had a multiplier in the
range of 1.2 or 1.3, but that is just a guess. For
the sample sheet, a multiplier of 1.10 to show the
lowest possible in LA.
- As indicated in
the .pdf, there is a RANGE of salary for each
position. This is based on longevity. P(25) is the
industry standard for each position. The actual
salary could fall anywhere in the range allowed.
This means a person would START at the bottom of the
range (usually 85% or 90% of the P(25) industry
standard) then MAX OUT at the top of the range
(always 110%) of the range. How fast they went
through that range depends on the position. The .pdf
file indicated the amount of pay increase per year
for each position. In the sample sheet, we have
tried to show how it works. The formulas are pretty
complicated.
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